Elishima
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Post by Elishima on May 11, 2016 16:40:53 GMT
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Yes, I actually go by Gem Jim as well.
So, anyways, back on topic!
This list was created with both my training, and tournament results in mind. I'm also hoping for some criticism on this as well, so if you have any questions about this list, feel free to ask!
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Havok
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Post by Havok on May 11, 2016 16:55:16 GMT
Pretty accurate. Diddy, from my experience, falls in the B- to C- range typically. I so badly want my Mega Man to be good, but in this meta, where you pretty much need Improved Escape to live, Mega Man is crushed. He is very grab centric because his grabs are so good. Imp Escape wrecks him. I'm trying very hard to train him up to enter in a tournament, but it may just not happen. Diddy, however, has surprised me. He is improving.
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Elishima
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Post by Elishima on May 11, 2016 17:10:57 GMT
Pretty accurate. Diddy, from my experience, falls in the B- to C- range typically. I so badly want my Mega Man to be good, but in this meta, where you pretty much need Improved Escape to live, Mega Man is crushed. He is very grab centric because his grabs are so good. Imp Escape wrecks him. I'm trying very hard to train him up to enter in a tournament, but it may just not happen. Diddy, however, has surprised me. He is improving. I've been taking the time to experiment with Diddy Kong as well, and he's definitely really solid from my experience. He's also one of the best at retaining what you teach him, which is always nice. |
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Post by Unoriginal Username on May 11, 2016 23:06:04 GMT
This is very accurate, at least, to me. Nice job on this.
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Yung Puff
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Third.
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Post by Yung Puff on May 11, 2016 23:41:05 GMT
I dont know about kirbys spot. I think Kirby has just as good AI as palutena, but better and Extremely safe and fast OOS punishes and a better recovery. Sure the lightweight kirby has is kinda bad, but With defensive points, and being a fast and agile character (even my lucario had trouble killing kirby) i think Kirby is better than both Palutena... and Jigglypuff...
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Post by TheBlueTrainer on May 11, 2016 23:49:56 GMT
Pretty accurate, to my training knowledge, Ryu is high B or low A.
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Elishima
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Post by Elishima on May 12, 2016 0:32:46 GMT
I dont know about kirbys spot. I think Kirby has just as good AI as palutena, but better and Extremely safe and fast OOS punishes and a better recovery. Sure the lightweight kirby has is kinda bad, but With defensive points, and being a fast and agile character (even my lucario had trouble killing kirby) i think Kirby is better than both Palutena... and Jigglypuff... To be honest, I haven't found any equipment setups that just definitely work for Kirby.
If you have any suggestions about that, I'd love to hear em'.
Another thing though, is that while Kirby is good at evading KO moves, he also has trouble landing his own, which can be a real problem at times. He also has much stubbier range compared to Palutena.
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Post by TheBlueTrainer on May 12, 2016 1:21:52 GMT
Finally, somebody who sees potential in Duck Hunt. My Duck Hunt is beating my best amiibo pretty reliably. After some more work, he'll be in a tourney.
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Yung Puff
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Third.
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Post by Yung Puff on May 12, 2016 1:34:14 GMT
I dont know about kirbys spot. I think Kirby has just as good AI as palutena, but better and Extremely safe and fast OOS punishes and a better recovery. Sure the lightweight kirby has is kinda bad, but With defensive points, and being a fast and agile character (even my lucario had trouble killing kirby) i think Kirby is better than both Palutena... and Jigglypuff... To be honest, I haven't found any equipment setups that just definitely work for Kirby.
If you have any suggestions about that, I'd love to hear em'.
Another thing though, is that while Kirby is good at evading KO moves, he also has trouble landing his own, which can be a real problem at times. He also has much stubbier range compared to Palutena.
I run Easy Perfect shield, Critical Hits, and Improved Escape, 40/40/40. I really love it, its honestly taking souls. |
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Elishima
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Post by Elishima on May 12, 2016 1:44:47 GMT
TheBlueTrainer High B or low A for Ryu, eh? Seems legit. Also, yes, Duck Hunt is pretty amazing when trained properly. Definitely potential there. Yung PuffSounds good, I'll give it a shot!
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