Cloud
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Post by Cloud on May 17, 2016 16:41:28 GMT
An update to Super Smash Bros., version 1.1.6, has been announced. Said to balance characters in the game, the update size is 61MB on Wii U and a whopping 325MB on 3DS, so it's quite a large update. I think this will absolutely shake some things up with amiibo, so it's our job to test and find out how patch 1.1.6 mixes up the metagame.
I think we should work together as a team and create a comprehensive changelog of what has changed in our amiibo. For now, train on and analyze what your amiibo is doing and how it plays. After the update, we can see if that changed. If you notice something that has changed, be it an individual character buff or nerf, AI changes, a change to a bonus effect, or anything, post it here and I'll try to confirm it.
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Elishima
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Post by Elishima on May 17, 2016 16:48:16 GMT
I AM THE MASTER OF POINTING OUT SMALL THINGS
I'll do mah best to help contribute to the community!
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Yung Puff
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Post by Yung Puff on May 17, 2016 16:55:03 GMT
In b4 corrin f smash nerf and her f smash has the worst range in the game
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Z
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Post by Z on May 17, 2016 16:59:55 GMT
In b4 corrin f smash nerf and her f smash has the worst range in the game Don't think they'll nerf the range, but they might cut down on Dmg & Knockback. I can see Bayo's Witch Time getting tweaked again as well. For the love of god, please let Metaknight get just a little buff. He doesn't need much, just enough to make him stop sucking.
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Yung Puff
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Post by Yung Puff on May 17, 2016 17:01:55 GMT
In b4 corrin f smash nerf and her f smash has the worst range in the game Don't think they'll nerf the range, but they might cut down on Dmg & Knockback. I can see Bayo's Witch Time getting tweaked again as well. it was a joke .-.
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Z
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Post by Z on May 17, 2016 17:03:17 GMT
Ah. Went right over my head. By the way, when is this dropping? is it already here? I swear to christ if they nerf Charizard right after that much-deserved 1.1.5 buff I will kidnap the Pope.
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Cloud
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Post by Cloud on May 17, 2016 17:24:12 GMT
Ah. Went right over my head. By the way, when is this dropping? is it already here? I swear to christ if they nerf Charizard right after that much-deserved 1.1.5 buff I will kidnap the Pope. Most likely tonight. Maintenance is scheduled to end at 7:30PM PST / 10:30PM EST.
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Post by keethkon on May 17, 2016 17:28:42 GMT
I will probably test each character on the roster to see how my amiibo react to them. Replays will probably be saved as well for analysis.
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Post by Roflcopter on May 17, 2016 17:29:10 GMT
Changes to attacks don't really pose a significant threat in my opinion unless they affect true combos. The AI we notice with amiibo has a preference for them, so the appearence of more true combos would modify amiibo behavior.
If any changes are made directly to the AI, expect the possibility of a shift, slight or massive, in the behavior of certain amiibo.
...Who knows, maybe Ike or DK will improve?
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Yung Puff
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Post by Yung Puff on May 17, 2016 17:46:47 GMT
Ah. Went right over my head. By the way, when is this dropping? is it already here? I swear to christ if they nerf Charizard right after that much-deserved 1.1.5 buff I will kidnap the Pope. In other words, its dropping faster than my mixtape Hue hue hue
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Post by Minerva Seyfarth on May 17, 2016 18:24:44 GMT
WHAT IF THE LITTLE MAC AMIIBO GETS NERFED? I WILL CELEBRATE AS IF IT WAS CHRISTMAS.
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Post by isaiahbroussard on May 17, 2016 18:36:38 GMT
If Palutena will start using her counter I'll be super happy.
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HalfaMask
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Post by HalfaMask on May 17, 2016 18:46:56 GMT
I won't be able test out everything these next few days following the patch, but I'll see what I can expirement with.
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Blakers
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Post by Blakers on May 17, 2016 18:51:07 GMT
Buff Lucario! And Game & Watch! And Diddy's AI while you're at it! Nerf Mac! Put Sceptile in the game! And the Ice Climbers! Give them both amiibo files that we can download off the Internet so we get the amiibos early! Same with Cloud, Corrin, and Bayonetta!
So, this is all pretty reasonable, right?
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Post by EPM on May 17, 2016 19:37:12 GMT
[Returns from isolated mountain.]
The frame data will be the quickest thing analyzed by Smashboards as usual. If changes to AIs are made, I suspect those will show up in the untrained level 9 CPUs. However, changed frame data will shift amiibo AI regardless, depending on what's done.
325 MB is enormous. For reference, an entire modern 3DS game on eshop can ballpark 2 GB. Pokemon X and Y, for example, were 1.7 GB. 325 MB is just shy of 1/6th of an entire game in terms of data size. However, it's telling that the Wii U isn't receiving nearly that much, implying that it isn't needed. From this, I conclude that the 3DS version will be getting more stages from the Wii U version. As the NX continues building hype and Smash 4's primary team have moved on (mostly), I think it's fair to guess that the 3DS version will have some additional content from the Wii U ported over. Given how the handheld sales and New 3DS XL have been superior to the Wii U, and the New 3DS XL will remain relevant into the lifetime of the NX, I think it's a fair bet that the 264 MB difference is mainly going to be content that already exists on the Wii U simply being brought over.
However, in either case, something pretty big is coming over. I wouldn't be surprised if data miners ended up finding something related to forward compatibility.
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